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Wrestlemania 2015 Play-Per-View

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1 - WWE World Heavyweight Championship
Brock Lesnar (c) vs Roman Reigns

2 - United States Championship
Rusev (c) vs John Cena

3 - Ladder Match - Intercontinental Championship
Bad News Barrett (c) vs Daniel Bryan vs Dean Ambrose vs Dolph Ziggler vs Luke Harper vs Stardust vs R-Truth

4 - Grudge Match
Sting vs Triple H

5 - The Streak Is Not on the Line
The Undertaker vs Bray Wyatt

6 - Grudge Match
Randy Orton vs Seth Rollins

7 - Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal
Who will win the Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal?

Participants announced: The Miz, Curtis Axel, Ryback, Fandango, Adam Rose, Zack Ryder, Jack Swagger, Titus O'Neil, Darren Young, Big Show, Kane, Erick Rowan, Damien Mizdow, Sin Cara, Goldust, Heath Slater, Mark Henry, Konnor, Viktor and Hideo Itami.

8 - Divas Tag Team Match
AJ Lee and Paige vs The Bella Twins

9 - Kickoff Match - WWE Tag Team Championship
Cesaro and Tyson Kidd (c) vs The Usos vs The New Day vs Los Matadores

10 - 30 Bonus Points
Who will be Eliminated Last in the Battle Royal?

11 - 30 Bonus Points
Who will leave WrestleMania as the WWE World Heavyweight Champion?

12 - Tiebreaker
What will be the bell-to-bell match time of the WWE World Heavyweight Championship match?

Picks must be submitted by Sunday, March 29th at 6:00pm EST
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Good thing we don't throw out stip changes huh? I guess that would be pretty sucky if we did, for the 10 people who picked Triple H.
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I didn't score it but if the match wasn't No DQ when we announced the PPV, or ever announced by us prior to the show that it was changed to No DQ, then it shouldn't count per the new rules that went into effect for WM. It looks like the ME was thrown out because Rollins cashed in mid-match, which is correct. One question I had tho was why Rollins isn't being shown as being scored actual points for the who would walk out with the WWE Title question.
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Wait, was the new rule not that stips to/from No DQ would NOT throw out a match? I'd like for anyone to argue how the No DQ stip change totally changed what they would've picked.

And the who leaves as champ was a 30 point bonus question.

Edit: Sorry, i realize now that the match should in fact be thrown out. But whatevs, it moves me into the top 10 so that's good, so i shouldn't be complaining about it.
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MVH wrote:I'd like for anyone to argue how the No DQ stip change totally changed what they would've picked.

And the who leaves as champ was a 30 point bonus question.

Edit: Sorry, i realize now that the match should in fact be thrown out. But whatevs, it moves me into the top 10 so that's good, so i shouldn't be complaining about it.
To the first point, the only way I would have picked Trips is if it was No DQ. So to me that is a material change to the match. And as per the rules, as you mentioned, should be thrown out.

Ah maybe it was just entered wrong then. It shows on the results page as like a multiple choice match that would be scored like a regular match. I still thought tho that people should show as 30 points for that question if they had Rollins which it doesn't seem to me is the case (unless I just didn't click on someone that had Rollins). I'm a little tipsy from the high quality Select Reserve Black Barrel Jameson we had tonight tho so I won't be looking at the database or anything till tomorrow.
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I didn't watch hour one of the pre-show, but was it ever announced prior to the match that it was pinfall/submission only?
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Until I heard Cole or JBL mention it was No DQ so this is legal with DX, I had no idea it was No DQ. Not saying they didn't announce it on the pre-show but I didn't realize until the first interference happened.
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Even for the match Lilian only said that the only way to win was by pinfall or submission, nothing about No-DQ. It was never officially announced to be No-DQ and the ref even enforced a rope break at one point.
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I guess that is true. I distinctly remember the announcers mentioning it was a No DQ tho and then one of them asking why a rope break was enforced if you can't be DQ'd. It figures we'd have a questionable match as soon as we announced the new rules tho.
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I didn't hear a ton of the commentary because of all the people I was with, but all I know is Lilian announced it as pinfall or submission only. So I don't know what the WWE.com write-ups might say but it wasn't billed as No DQ for the match announcement.
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Yea I missed the introductions cuz we were talking over it but I remember the point in the match where Cole said this is all legal and both my friend and I were like huh? So either way, I consider it a stip change as to me it completely changed the complexion of the match. And honestly calling it by pin or submission might as well be a No DQ match cuz rules are the same. And the rules we as the Scorekeepers, Admins, Gamemasters, whatever, voted on were any stip change tosses the match. The idea was to get rid of the grey areas and make it black and white so no one had to make judgment calls during the show about certain matches. So with the in mind, it is my opinion it shouldn't be counted. But I'll look around to see if the people that write recaps, etc, had the same interpretation and I guess we need to have a mini-tribunal to sort it out.
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Not to belabor the point but this from James Caldwell over at PWTorch.Com, and others I just read, says exactly how I feel about the Sting/Trips match stips (note the bolded text): "WINNER: Hunter at 18:36. Definitely exceeded expectations. A lot happened after the sudden shift pre-match to no DQs, but the overall match story fit one aspect of the main build-up centered on WWE vs. WCW nostalgia."
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Funny how I used this match as an example during the last debate, and it actually happened.

You guys just set the rules, so it shouldn't be counted by the rules. In my mind the No DQ aspect does nothing to change who I would pick, but like you said it would lean you toward Triple H, so it matters to some.
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Yep, match should be tossed. Hate to do that to two matches on the show, but rules are rules.
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At least there was the bonus choice for the World title match.
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