Jay Lethal's finisher

The Big Dog · Post by **The Big Dog** » Sun May 06, 2007 5:44 pm

Football Mike wrote:Xplosion! - Week One: May 5th, 2007

Match 1
"Black Machismo" Jay Lethal def Homicide

* Jay Lethal hit the elbow drop off the top rope for the win.

Jay Lethal: 3 points for a Pinfall Win + 1 point for Main Event
Homicide: 1 point for Main Event

I don't use the guy in my stable, but to be fair to those who do, Lethal uses the top rope elbow as his finisher ever since he debuted the black machismo gimmick, why didn't he get finisher points?

Post by **GM Bike** » Sun May 06, 2007 6:09 pm

In order for it to count as his finisher officially it has to be seen on Television and scored at least three times, this is the second by my count. Next time he wins with that move it'll become his new Finisher.

ILCN · Post by **ILCN** » Sun May 06, 2007 7:51 pm

Well he won with it twice on Impact and once on PPV, does that count?

Post by **GM Bike** » Sun May 06, 2007 7:54 pm

I've only seen it on Impact once, and I didn't see Lockdown yet but I saw Biznich's scoring of it, so I'll change it now.

The Biznich · Post by **The Biznich** » Sun May 06, 2007 7:59 pm

For the record, it just gets added as a Secondary Finisher. Just hitting it three times doesn't "overwrite" his primary finisher that quick. At least that's how I recall it. Many times we've seen wrestler's debut a new finisher, just to have it fall into the "signature" role later.

Post by **Naturally Aivaz** » Sun May 06, 2007 8:08 pm

How's a sec. finisher scored?

The Biznich · Post by **The Biznich** » Sun May 06, 2007 8:11 pm

Naturally Aivaz wrote:How's a sec. finisher scored?

It essentially counts the same as the primary finisher if the wrestler wins the match with it. But they don't score the extra 2 points every time they hit it throughout the match that doesn't lead to a pinfall.

Post by **SeeDub** » Sun May 06, 2007 8:18 pm

He hasn't used the Dragon Suplex for ages.

It should be:

Finisher: Savage Elbow
Secondary: Lethal Combination

Post by **Killer Karpediem** » Mon May 07, 2007 9:42 am

SeeDub wrote:He hasn't used the Dragon Suplex for ages.

It should be:

Finisher: Savage Elbow
Secondary: Lethal Combination

Close SeeDub it's is Savage Elbow
Signature is called Lethal Injection

Post by **SeeDub** » Mon May 07, 2007 4:51 pm

Killer Karpediem wrote:
SeeDub wrote:He hasn't used the Dragon Suplex for ages.

It should be:

Finisher: Savage Elbow
Secondary: Lethal Combination
Close SeeDub it's is Savage Elbow
Signature is called Lethal Injection

He doesn't even use the Lethal Injection in TNA. Prior to the Savage Elbow he was finishing matches with the Lethal Combination, which is a backbreaker/reverse STO combo. Before that he used the release dragon suplex.

Post by **Killer Karpediem** » Mon May 07, 2007 9:43 pm

Well you might want to check TNA's site as they have it listed as The Lethal Injection.

Post by **SeeDub** » Tue May 08, 2007 6:54 am

They're liars!! :(

I guess they used one of his existing names for a move for one of his TNA moves.

I've never heard them call any of his moves the Lethal Injection on commentary though, so how do you know which one to score as a signature move?

The Biznich · Post by **The Biznich** » Tue May 08, 2007 7:07 am

Killer Karpediem wrote:Well you might want to check TNA's site as they have it listed as The Lethal Injection.

They also list one of Austin Starr's finishers as the Rings of Saturn. WTF?

MammaJamma22 · Post by **MammaJamma22** » Thu May 10, 2007 10:29 pm

SeeDub wrote:He hasn't used the Dragon Suplex for ages.

It should be:

Finisher: Savage Elbow
Secondary: Lethal Combination

I agree....and I'm not just saying that because he's in my stable :D

The Big Dog · Post by **The Big Dog** » Sun May 13, 2007 4:01 pm

SeeDub wrote:
Killer Karpediem wrote:
SeeDub wrote:He hasn't used the Dragon Suplex for ages.

It should be:

Finisher: Savage Elbow
Secondary: Lethal Combination
Close SeeDub it's is Savage Elbow
Signature is called Lethal Injection
He doesn't even use the Lethal Injection in TNA. Prior to the Savage Elbow he was finishing matches with the Lethal Combination, which is a backbreaker/reverse STO combo. Before that he used the release dragon suplex.

So they called it the Lethal Combination when he hit it on Impact this week.. and he didnt get points for it.. just thought I'd stir the shit..