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13th Anniversary Show Play-Per-View

Post by MVH » Sat Feb 21, 2015 8:28 am

1 - ROH World Championship Four Corner Survival Match
Jay Briscoe (c) vs. Hanson vs. Michael Elgin vs. Tommaso Ciampa

2 - ROH Television Championship
Jay Lethal (c) v. Alberto El Patrón

3 - ROH World Tag Team Championship
reDRagon (Bobby Fish & Kyle O'Reilly) (c) vs. The Young Bucks

4 - Regular Match
"The Phenomenal" AJ Styles vs. ACH

5 - Grudge Match
ODB vs. Maria Kanellis

6 - Triple Threat Tag Team Match
The Addiction (Christopher Daniels & Frankie Kazarian) vs. The Kingdom (Michael Bennett & Matt Taven) vs. BULLET CLUB (Doc Gallows & "Machine Gun" Karl Anderson)

7 - Grudge Match
"Mr ROH" Roderick Strong vs. BJ Whitmer

8 - Regular Match
"#Reborn" Matt Sydal vs. Cedric Alexander

9 - Grudge Match
Mark Briscoe vs. Moose

10 - Tiebreaker
What will be the bell-to-bell time of the ROH Tag Team Championship match?

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Re: 13th Anniversary Show Play-Per-View

Post by Mackinlee » Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:24 pm

Awesome card.
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Re: 13th Anniversary Show Play-Per-View

Post by Conye West » Sat Feb 21, 2015 7:23 pm

What's the difference between a grudge match and a Regular match?
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Re: 13th Anniversary Show Play-Per-View

Post by legendkiller003 » Sat Feb 21, 2015 7:30 pm

Good point. I thought they were the same thing and people just called it whichever they preferred.
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Re: 13th Anniversary Show Play-Per-View

Post by MVH » Sat Feb 21, 2015 10:39 pm

A grudge match is set up because theres a feud to be settled. A regular match is, well, when there's not a feud to be settled. I just took the match descriptions off of what ROH promotes the matches as.
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Post by Mackinlee » Sat Feb 21, 2015 11:51 pm

Very good distinction.
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Post by legendkiller003 » Sun Mar 01, 2015 7:37 pm

I'm not on the up-and-up on these things, so I don't know who all is in the Bullet Club, but I read Doc Gallows will miss the show due to weather. If someone replaces him in the match or whatever happens to the match, it will not be scored correct?
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Post by GM Bike » Sun Mar 01, 2015 7:49 pm

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Re: 13th Anniversary Show Play-Per-View

Post by GM Bike » Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:13 pm

After reading the rules I'm not sure. It says "should a match be changed significantly or not appear it will be omitted."

He wasn't replaced and I don't think him appearing or not appearing would've changed the outcome.
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Post by legendkiller003 » Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:24 pm

I would agree that it wasn't significantly changed. Does MVH make this ruling?
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Post by GM Bike » Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:26 pm

I think it's a consensus.

I'd argue it's no different than Ambrose vs. Rollins last year.

The match was advertised as such, Ambrose was taken out of the match, Rollins won by forfeit & it counted for Play-Per-View as a win for Rollins. I don't see how this is different, or why it shouldn't count.
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Re: 13th Anniversary Show Play-Per-View

Post by legendkiller003 » Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:28 pm

It's kinda different. I mean, Rollins won the advertised match. This one was slightly changed. Either way, I would have no issue counting it.

Unless I just don't want you to win. :redsmile:
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Re: 13th Anniversary Show Play-Per-View

Post by GM Bike » Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:44 pm

Both were slightly changed.
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The Kingdom won the advertised match.
Where is the huge difference here? I argued from your perspective in the Ambrose/Rollins match and the majority ruled it should count.

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Re: 13th Anniversary Show Play-Per-View

Post by LiQuid » Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:21 am

Did they not announce Rollins as winning by forfeit tho?

I don't know how this played out but I would think Bullet Club would have won their official debut if Gallows was there.
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Re: 13th Anniversary Show Play-Per-View

Post by Mackinlee » Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:53 am

It was a small change, but a change nonetheless. I don't think it should count, but with that being said I won't be upset if it was counted. Depends on how everyone feels about it.
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